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an infringement of their sovereignty. ♪ alrighty. if you're just waking up, just made it to saturday. and i know that feels good. good morning to you. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. president-elect trump won on a platform where we promised to shake up washington. and he is doing that. >> yesterday a phone call with taiwan and that exchange breaks more than 40 years of u.s. gloam 34 diplomatic relations with china. the president offered her congratulations and then they went on to, quote, talk about the close security ties that exist between taiwan and the u.s. >> but no president or
president-elect for that matter has spoken directly with the leader of taiwan since 1979. since then, america has adhered to the one china policy where they asked taiwan part of china. ash carter recently called the region consequential. our team of reporter standing by for the latest on this. let's begin with cnn's jessica schneider live at trump tower in new york. good morning to you, jessica. >> good morning to you, martin. yes, it is the phone call that has bucked nearly 40 years of protocol. president-elect trump insisting that ten-minute call was initiated by the president of taiwan. but nevertheless, the backlash is already apparent. china reached out to the white house yesterday. and now a spokesman for the chinese forge ministry is
releasing a statement saying i must point out that there is only one china in the world and taiwan is a part of that chinese territory. the people's republic of china is in the sole legal government that represents china and that is an intentionally recognize kt fap the one china principle is the political foundation of china/u.s. relations. now donald trump is on the defensive. in fact, last night after all of this hoopla, he did tweet out this. he said, interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars of military quilt but i should not accept a congratulatory call. kellyanne conway saying this. >> i can't comment beyond what was said. i won't do that. this is the president-elect and
he'll be president of the united states imminently now. he's well aware of what u.s. policy has been. >> reporter: so donald trump's transition team backing this call, defending this call. but many lawmakers, former ambassadors, a lot of people saying this bucks tradition. this bucks protocol. and this could pose a dangerous threat to the u.s. martin and christi. >> thank you very much. we get more on china's reaction, steven yang joining us live from beijing. give us some context, steven, because we did hear from china overnight. and part of what came specifically from their foreign ministry spokesman there. really stuck out. i think to both of us. stuck out to both of us. what did you take from what they said? talk to us about the context they said. >> christi, i have to say the
ministry's statement is relatively measured. i think the reason is that china like many other governments is still trying to find out the true meaning of this phone call. was it just a blunder in trump's inexperience with foreign policy or was it something more major signaling a policy shift by the incoming white house. i think it's going to take them some time to find out. interestingly china's president xi jinping met yesterday. mr. xi told mr. kissinger it is critically important for both sides to correctly understand each other's strategic intentions. and i think mr. xi must be wondering what mr. trump's intentions are by having this phone call. and he is also probably the one doing this trump is somebody he can trust and work with in the next four years.
christi. >> well, part of the article, the statement that stuck out to me was, when they wrote, i must point out that there is only one china in the world and taiwan is an inseparable part of the territory. the people's republic of china is the sole part that recognizes china and that is a recognized fact. the fact that he's trying to remind not just this incoming administration, but the world, look, this is how it is. and this phone call doesn't change anything? >> that's right. the one china policy as the chinese foreign ministry has put it is the cornerstone of this diplomatic relationship. but both sides have been deliberately less ambiguous in terms of how they interpret the policy. that's why u.s. is able to maintain relations with taiwan and able to defend itself against china. and at the end of the day, china
is still trying to give the trump team the benefit of the doubt. that's why they're putting it on taiwan. mr. xi realizes that this relationship with beijing is too important. no scale or importance without cooperation from the two sides. that's why, you so, we are talking about the south china sea territorial disputes, and the that's why they're trying to walk a very fine line here, christi. >> steven jiang, we appreciate it. when is a phone call not really a phone call and something more? let's talk about this with eugene caught and lauren fox. eugene, trump tweeted out that the president called him. of course, you don't just call
donald trump on the fly. this had to be coordinated. do you think this is deliberate, a policy change that we're seeing on the part of the trump administration? >> i think what happened, if is it true that the taiwanese government called donald trump first they perhaps painted a patient of how critical donald trump was throughout his campaign, promising to put tariffs on china. accusing china of being a manipulate of its currency. and perhaps hoping that there was an opportunity for improved relationship with the united states, especially in the area of trade. and we saw yesterday that one of trump's advisers on chinese issues say they definitely think there's a way to have warmer relationships with taiwan without compromising its relationship with beijing. so, i think taiwan, perhaps, wanted to take advantage of that opportunity. >> lauren, we know trump took a hard line on china during the campaign. in fact. here's an example.
>> we can't continue to allow china to rape our country. and that's what they're doing. it's the greatest theft in the history of the world. >> so, after making a very strong statement like that lauren. he follows up with a phone call that he gets from taiwan. up know, what kind of relations can we expect then between the u.s. and trump administration? >> i think we don't know. at the moment. that's sort of where we're at. and i think the one thing that we might see moving forward is that maybe some of the stuff that donald trump said on the campaign trail he really does plan to implement. and maybe one of those is the relationship with china. the stance that he will take against china. and maybe one of the signals that he's sending is that he took this historic phone call, something that hasn't been done over the last four decades. i think there's a lot to be seen here. and i think there's some discussion of whether or not this is a mistake.
whether he didn't understand what he was doing. or whether or not this was very intentional. and it's possible given his campaign rhetoric that that's exactly what happened. >> eugene, it seems to have pushed back tweeting, quote, interesting how the u.s. can sell taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment, but i should not accept a congratulatory call. so, eugene, the u.s. does have an economic relationship with taiwan. what do you think of all of this? >> i think trump's tweet exemplifies the one china policy. in fact, it's really open to interpretation by multiple countries. at its core, it recognizes there is just one china. but how one responds to that china varies depending on the democracy that we're speaking of. and how the u.s. has responded to this while not having communication with the leaders of taiwan, certainly, we've been
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after president-elect trump confirmed his surprise announcement of james mattis, ash carter weighed in on trump's selection to replace him. he said that general mattis, he tolds him in the highest regard. mattis has also been endorsed by former secretary of defense robert gates. he met with trump yesterday at trump tower. >> i told him, i thought his selection of general mattis for
the secretary of defense was terrific. very supportive. >> cnn's jim sciutto says there are a few differences in opinions between trump and his defense secretary. listen. >> christi and martin, we're hearing a lot of positive reaction to the nomination of mattis, this from both democrats and republicans, but also people in uniform. some of whom were skeptical of trump. >> we are going to appoint mad dog mattis as our secretary of defense. >> reporter: mad dog, the nickname general james mattis earned leading u.s. marines in the battle of the iraq war as donald trump's pick for secretary. >> he's the closest thing to general george patton that we
have and it's about time. >> reporter: mattis, 44 years of service in the marine corps and key commands in both afghanistan and iraq where he led troops in the 2003 invasion and later for the battle of fallujah. >> the u.s. military is quite capable of giving them their longest day. >> reporter: mattis has been critical of the obama administration. >> next president is going to inherit a mess. >> reporter: like trump, mattis is hawkish on iran. >> iranian regime in my mind is the single most enduring threat to stability and peace in the middle east. >> reporter: still, trump and mattis disagree son several key foreign policy challenges. trump has praised russia. >> wouldn't it be nice if we actually did get along with russia? >> reporter: mattis sees russia and putin as a threat. >> putin goes to bed at night knowing he can break all of the
rules and the west will try to follow the rules. >> reporter: trump is in danger of bringing back waterboarding. mattis opposes waterboarding, trump telling "the new york times" that during a meeting mattis told him it's ineffective. >> i said what do you think of waterboarding? he said i've never found it to be useful. he said i've always found give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and i do better with that than i do with torture. >> reporter: mattis is a marine's marine. a voracious readerer and debt cade t dedicated thinker. >> he carried around a library of 10,000 books and he's read most of them. >> reporter: in 2005 he came understand fire for remarks in a panel discussion which seemed to make light of killing in combat. mattis' nomination, would, however, face an immediate and
significant legislative hurdle. the federal law requires the pentagon be led by either civilian or military veteran who has been out of uniform for at least seven years. mattis has been out of uniform for three years. congress would have to give him a waiver. christi. >> we want to talk about it with mark hurtling. thank you for being with us. >> good morning to you. >> the praise that this pick has brought forth, but how do you see it as somebody who is in the military, how do you see mattis influencing trump's administration? >> very positively, christi. he is a very mature and informed strategic thinker. he's not only a great tactical commander, but is this an individual who is professional across the board. you know, he has the nickname of
mad dog that everybody is touting. but that's something that the press gave him. i think he would be much more comfortable with something that he was called as a four star the warrior monk. he is a student of military history and strategy. he has commanded in all parts of the globe. and he knows the world. so, i believe as a military -- a former military guy, i would tell you that this is the right kind of person to have inside the national security console as a key voice to balance some of the thoughts that mr. trump has laid out. >> i was just going to ask you, we heard from jim, russia, waters boarding, would issues in particular that there are disagreement on between president-elect trump and mattis. how does mattis deal with a situation like that, where there say difference in the thought process, and what can happen going forward? >> well, typically, the numbers of the national security council and the primaries committee. the main group of people that
surround the president when he's analyzing different courses of action, mattis and whoever will be the secretary of state will probably be the two key voices. the alpha dogs in the room. so the influence that he's going to be able to give in these kind of deliberations, but also in terms of telling mr. trump, here are -- here is what the department of defense and the military forces can do. here's what they shouldn't do. and here are the courses of actions if you're asking me for options, that we're looking at. so those are very important things. he will give mr. trump a vision of the feesable and viable plans that mr. trump is asking him to execute, all in accordance with military and civilian ethos and the law. >> i read what one said of mattis originally in the strategy and then pick up by the federalist. he wrote to marine the finest of
our tribal elders. the rest of the world, very soon, will know how truly gifted he is. our friends and allies will be happy he is our new secretary of war. our enemies will soon wish he weren't. what would you say being in that position, with only three years as we know, jim talked about how congress has to pass this to make it happen. to people who might have some concern about the safety of our troops and the missions that they will be on and how aggressive the military may be in those missions? >> yeah, well, the first thing i would tell him is the civilian control of the military is a process that general mattis and all the rest of us believe in. that's the subnationch competent military to the ends of overall policy. so when you're talking about national security policy, joe mattis, now mr. mattis will give the influence of one of foreign
policy and that's the military. but i'd also say, i'm personally happy about the fact that mr. trump has selected a retired general, because he will go into the pentagon and understand the culture. and bring out the fact that of all the people who are war fighters -- the people who have actually seen combat, and general mattis has to a large degree, they are the ones least wanting to go to combat. so they offer the same approach saying, hey, look, we don't want to put america's sons and daughters in harm's way if we don't have to. that's why i think general mattis will be a seasoned and mature voice in the room. perhaps other individuals who are going after courses of actions that are not feasible or viable. >> lieutenant general mark hertling, always good to have your voice here with us. thank you. >> thank you, christi. as firefighters continue to battle the wildfires in tennessee, some residents have had their opportunity to get
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dozens of people are living and trying to find positives amid destruction. >> it's maybe something that everybody needed. i was talking to a woman while i was in church last night. i asked them why, why did this happen? and her and i both pretty much at the same time said because it brought everybody together from all walks of life. we're all in the same situation right now. >> what a thoughtful response. to donate to wildfire victims or find other ways that you can help because they do need it. head to cnn.com/impact. and thank you. a student is in custody after a university of southern california professor was killed on campus. the student attacked the professor with a knife yesterday. the suspect was arrested at the scene. university spokesperson says the professor was targeted and there's no threat to the campus
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morning waiting for you. good morning, i'm christi paul. >> and now you're here so we can begin. i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. >> donald trump set to have a quiet day. he took a call from taiwan's president of the united states. that's the first known contact between a u.s. president and the president-elect and the communist leader since the u.s. and china established diplomatic relations back in 1979. that one move, some say, undo four decades of u.s. territories in taiwan. and the unchina policy, that, of course, claims that taiwan is part of china. now, trump did tweet soon after all of this controversy started. and he said, quote. interesting how the u.s. sells taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment. but i should not accept a congratulatory call. unquote.
and truchina released this statements. we urge the revolution side in the u.s. to adhere to the one china policy abide by the pledges in the three joint china-u.s. communiques and handle issues related to taiwan carefully and properly. you may have heard that donald trump saved jobs that were planned to go to mexico. anders rexnord. donald trump tweeted, rex nord is moving to mexico and rather viciously firing all of its 300 workers. this is happening all over our country. no more. i spoke to those about to be laid off. >> reporter: as they celebrated saving hundreds of jobs inside the carrier plant. i sat at josh's kitchen table.
he's a long-time worker at a company down the street called rexnord. are you happy for them? >> yeah, i'm totally happy for him. >> reporter: he would hope someone would save his job, too. because rexnord announced it was leaving, relocating to mexico taking 300 well paying jobs with it. he remembers when the bad news broke. >> he said we have a meeting at 2:30 on the back dock. half the plant went up to the front dock, the other half went to the back dock. they just came out and said we're closing. >> reporter: rexnord has had a plant in indianapolis since the 1950s. don worked there for 30 years. >> it's not just 300, 1200, 1500, 1800 people. >> reporter: ironically, he ended up at rexnord after the
last factory he was at closed. >> it's tough. yeah, i was actually hoping i wouldn't have to go through it again. >> reporter: carrier plans to do its shut down over three years. rexnord workers say they have six months. now they're watching president-elect come to town and save carrier. and they're happy. >> we don't know the details yet. >> reporter: is there a part that says -- >> sure. >> reporter: he has six kids. >> it's not anything to brag about, but it's nice enough for us. >> reporter: he started a college fund for his daughters, put some money into a retirement fund. and bought his wife their first new car, a minivan. >> my first payment was due that friday they announced. >> reporter: he's glad to hear about carrier because especially he never thought it would
happen. is does that give you hope? >> no, it's a different situation. >> reporter: how so? >> it's impairing apples to oranges. >> reporter: for starters, rexnord wasn't a campaign issue. it's not a household name like carrier and it doesn't have a parent company that does billions of dollars in defense contracts. >> we don't have a parent company that has 10% of their revenue in federal contracts. >> reporter: do you think that matters? >> oh, yeah, it matters. >> reporter: do you think it matters in this case? >> oh, yeah, 100%. so, the question now is could donald trump -- was this just a one-off kind of thing or would he be save future jobs like rexnord going somewhere else. let's bring in eugene scott and lauren fox for talking points memo. eugene, we learned that trump didn't save as many jobs as he
claimed. >> yeah, it was 1100 jobs but the accurate number is closer to 800. i know that may seem minor to some readers and viewers. but the reality is 300 of those jobs that were accounted for weren't even part of the plan to move to mexico. i think what's more important carrier will actually still move about 600 jobs to mexico. >> right. it's true. there is a whole division they plan to move. but 800 jobs, still that is say dramatic turnaround from every job going away. that's pleasantly shocking to others there. will that give incentives to others planning to move out of the country? i'd imagine you're going to have a lot of these companies that say, all right, i won't move if -- lauren, what do you think? >> i think that's one of the concerns. that's one of the alarm bills that went off after the deal was
announced $7 million in tax breaks is a huge insensitive. that's also tax revenue not going to the state. tax revenue that's not going into building infrastructure in the state. i think that is certainly a concern. is this going to be used as a tactic by companies in every state across america in order to sort of, you know, stop them from move ago broad? and sort of what is the unintended consequence of that. obviously, this isn't something that can be replicated every time. >> eugene, you got trump who tweets and he mentioned rexnord specifically by name. he's sort of saying i got you guys under my radar here. if you're the ceo and you're thinking of moving, does that worry you. are you now saying i'll rethink this? >> well, i think if you're the ceo, you're open to conversations with donald trump to see what would happen that would encourage you to stay. i think it's really important, though, to lauren's point that
this may not be able to be replicated in every state. carrier was an unique situation in that in addition to being in indiana which is where the vice president-elect is still governor, you have that relationship there, carrier is owned by united technology which is an organization that donald trump invested in. so important these things can be replicated for other companies, even in the state. or outside, just isn't really clear right now. >> it was suggested by carrier, lauren, that they were going to save about $65 million a year by moving to mexico. primarily, because they were going to be paying wages far lower than what they had to pay in the united states. how do you compete with that? what does trump have to offer that offsets that kind of savings? >> well, that's certainly 65 what this whole campaign was about and what trump might be up against in making good on those promises. i think it's going to be difficult because we're not just
talk about a couple millions in tax breaks. they're going to save five times that much. six sometimes, ten times as much if they move jobs overseas. i think what trump might be trying to do is pressure companies by tweeting about them by making it public that these companies can't just move and now the entire united states is paying attention to this. i think that's what trump is trying to do. it's difficult to say for sure. >> he did in his speech that he gave at carrier on thursday saying that companies just can't move to mexico without consequences. they heard it loud and clear. eugene scott and lauren fox, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. a mistrial and a controversial murder trial. and it could be, as a you're is deadlocked. why at least one juror is refusing a conviction.
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the one juror that's holding out will reflect, pray, look at the facts, look at the evidence that we heard that was overwhelming. and we believe that he'll see the light. we believe that justice will be here on monday. >> deliberations in the murder trial by a former police officer, they told the judge it could not come to a unanimous decision. >> michael slager is on trial for killing scott. one juror writing a letter to the judge, quote, i will not change my mind, unquote.
slager pulled scott over for a tail light in april. when they say scott bolted from his car. because it's so graphic, we stop it just before slager actually shoots scott. but prosecutors have argued that slager told investigators -- what he told them just doesn't match up for the video that we see here. slager maintains that he feared for his life. laura, thank you for sticking around here. >> good morning. >> first of all, yesterday, in this trial. they're coming back on monday. they'll have 48 hours, especially, to go home and to deal with everything that they've seen, maybe get back into their normal lives, if they can. how much will these next 48 hours save what could happen monday morning? >> well, it's going to be critical, not for the 11 jurors who are already having a
decisive decision, but it may prove critical to the one holdout juror who says he cannot guilty verdict given the options he has and he feels a reasonable doubt there. so it may lead to him changing his mind. so i think it will have very little impact on the other 11 jurors. what it could do is quell the immediate reaction, visceral reaction to a mistrial. and gives community members the opportunity to reflect and figure out where to go from here. >> you know, a lot of people have watched that video. and they don't understand how it's not a conviction. this is due process. this is people come to the table with different thoughts. with different experiences. but when this juror says that he -- there is still some reasonable doubt here. despite that video, that so many people thought would just be cut and dried in this place, what do
you see might be some of his trepidations? >> well, i'm one of the people that says this should be a clear case, but i will say this, reasonable doubt is something ever prosecutor dreads and every defense attorney clings to. it only takes one person on a jury to say, listen there may not be enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. remember, the doubt has to be reasonable. not all scintilla of evidences. but reasonable doubt. the judge's decision to allow the jury could reflect and consider a manslaughter charge and murder charge may have signalled to the juror about there was doubt whether this was pre-mmeditated or whether the
officer is getting the punishment. having said that, i don't think that any reasonable juror could look at this video tape and hear the testimony of the officer and find there is something that -- you know, any questions that are unanswered. but you're right. a justice system requires unanimity. if it ends up 11-1 in a mistrial. the prosecutor could bring the case again. but we can not, cannot allow people to say, well, one person's hold justify will transform thelaura, good to hav. next, we'll take you to brazil where a massive memorial is planned for the soccer team killed in a plane crash. not down. it's feeling up thinking up living up. it's being in motion...
all right. brazil is honoring the members of cinderella soccer team that were killed in that horrific crash earlier this week. >> military planes carrying the bodies of the plane crash victims have arrived in the stadium and there's a memorial that will be taking place. the plane crashed into a mountain just moments before it was supposed to land, killing 71 people on board. >> the video you're seeing here -- >> we are live at a memorial service being held there.
what can you tell us? >> reporter: as you can imagine, it's an incredibly emotional day. the weather here is also not cooperating. the rain is absolutely torrential here. we are live inside the stadium. the football team chapecoense has suffered the most devastating loss in the plane crash. of course, they were traveling to play in what was undoubted bli the greatest game in the history of this football team. it's one of the biggest football competitions in the continent of south america. and of course they never got to play that game. and many of their players are never coming home. 38 people from this football club were killed. 18 players. and this, despite the fact that this was a successful team, is actually a very small team. it's a small town, some 200,000 people here, and so it has just ripped the heart out of this
club and of this community. it has been a devastating week. and i think for many of the supporters it's only really now that the reality is kicking in because as we speak the players have been flown back to the local airport and the caskets are being unloaded from those c130 military trance fort plasp. as they're brought off individually, this crowd has been quietly applauding every single casket and there are dozens and dozens of them. another round of applause as these caskets begin to make their way the short distance to the stadium. when they get here, it will take another couple of hours, i could imagine. the caskets are going to be brought to the field and laid out in this tented area just behind me. absolutely extraordinary scenes.
unprecedented, i would say. and it really is hard to find the words to describe the grief and the emotion here. i mentioned the rain at the start. people are out here getting absolutely soaked. i will say this -- they don't seem to mind. they do say that chapecoense always played best in the rain. >> don, question for you, there are survivors of this crash. do we know how they are? all right, don. apparently he can't hear me. don riddell, thank you very much. very moving, moving ceremony from a horrific crash and what it has meant to an entire town. >> and relating the rain there now to how they played, that was something. >> so poignant. some people asking this morning, can a single phone call undo diplomatic relations spanning five u.s. administrations? there are critics this morning concerned that president-elect
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sinister, a husband and wife opened fire, killing 14 people and injuring 21 others. >> investigators believe the attackers sympathized with isis. they were killed in a shootout with police. we spoke with some of the survivors of the attack about their memories of the day and their struggle to move on. >> well, it was a good day. i mean, to begin with, it was a good day. and i think just laying there and wondering if this was it. honestly just laying there after i was shot and just thinking, is this how my life is going to end? and in that moment you have the presence of mind to text your family. >> i did. because i thought if this is the end, i want to say at least i love them. if it's not the end, i want them to know i was shot but i just remember laying there thinking, is this how my life is going to end? >> he didn't come in there to shoot me. he didn't come in there to shoot
julie or howe. he had mental health issues and religious idealogies. it wasn't for us personally. it wasn't personal. he was trying to make a statement. >> the city of san bernardino held a series of memorials for the victims yesterday, including a night of remembrance which you're looking at there. stay with us. we are heading into the political arena with you as well as the courtroom. >> that means the next hour of "new day" starts right now. >> do you remember before taking office the president-elect of the united states of america has in one phone call potentially changed more than three decades of u.s. diplomatic practice. >> trump speaking by phone with the president of taiwan which is something no american president has done in nearly 40 years. >> if there was an express way to cause a diplomatic uproar with china, this would be the way to do it. >> president-elect trump is fully briefed and fully knowledgeable about